[Videoconferencing] Fwd: ATLAS Live News - new document
Isabel Trigger
itrigger at triumf.ca
Thu Nov 17 10:51:30 PST 2011
Hi Kel,
I'm not especially worried about it from the point of view of using it -
I have tested it on a number of devices including the Mac in our small
videoconference room, and it works fine connecting to the CERN portal.
But it would mean that unless TRIUMF was willing to support Vidyo (not
the server, just the software), we'd have to stick to our own small room
(or office / home desktop / laptop connections, or mobile phone
interfaces) for all ATLAS meetings.
Despite EVO's many deficiencies, it is a bit of a blow in some ways that
CERN couldn't afford to support it anymore:
- we have a TRIUMF EVO phone bridge, so it was possible to call in from
a landline as a local call from Vancouver or a Canadian long-distance
call (cheap) from anywhere else in Canada (the fact that there are
Android and iOS Vidyo clients softens this quite a bit)
- Vidyo still doesn't have an integrated chat client (needed to type "we
can't hear you at Victoria" when you are pretty sure they can't hear you
either)
- EVO was working pretty well in all the conference rooms here and we
knew how to bridge it to H.323 (education and documentation issue)
- the VidyoDesktop software gets updated quite often and, depending on
how the computer is configured, you may need an administrator password
to update it - Vidyo won't run with an old version, so you are pretty
stuck if it's not up-to-date (hopefully there is / will be a yum package
to take care of this on the Linux machines).
So depending on what happens to the rest of the EVO user community
without CERN's support, it would be nice to keep in mind that we might
want to have a Canadian phone number attached to this... Not so sure
the server is needed as the US will have (already has?) servers, but if
all Tier-1 sites are supposed to have one, I guess Reda has been
contacted too. Will discuss when he's back.
Isabel
On 11/17/2011 10:33 AM, Kelvin Raywood wrote:
> "We" were contacted about a request to host H/W. It's not possible for
> core-computing to host their H/W in the main server room at the moment
> so if there tier-1 centre want to host the H/W that's fine. Otherwise we
> are forced to deny the request.
>
> But I don't think this will affect your use of the servers. You'll just
> have to contact an off-site server.
>
> Kel
>
> Isabel Trigger wrote:
>> Hi Andrew (& Tier 1 colleagues & videoconferencing enthusiasts),
>>
>> Sorry if everyone knew the details of this except me, but it's
>> probably good to post something on this list...
>>
>> I don't know whether anyone at CERN has contacted TRIUMF about the
>> deployment plan for the new Vidyo service
>> http://service-vidyo.web.cern.ch/ which will replace EVO (at least for
>> the big LHC experiments at CERN - EVO got too expensive). I notice
>> that "additional VidyoRouter at TRIUMF, Canada" is part of the plan
>> for phase 3, due by December 15th, but I don't know if their contact
>> is TRIUMF computing or the Tier 1
>> (http://service-vidyo.web.cern.ch/node/30 says the routers will all be
>> hosted at "CERN, Internet2 and LCG Tier 1 centers" - not sure about
>> the implications for phone bridge and local dial-in numbers).
>>
>> Anyway, we will need to install the Vidyo desktop software on
>> videoconferencing computers (good news is it works on many, many
>> platforms, including Linux, Android, iOS, Mac OS X, Windows...).
>>
>> We will also need to register H.323 devices.
>>
>> Are we in the loop and do we have a plan? How will it affect our other
>> uses of EVO e.g. for TRIUMF meetings, meetings with non-CERN
>> experiments, etc.?
>>
>> cheers,
>> Isabel
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: ATLAS Live News - new document
>> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:10:31 +0100
>> From: Cds Support <Cds.Support at cern.ch>
>> To: atlas-now-news (Mailing list for ATLAS NOW News)
>> <atlas-now-news at cern.ch>
>>
>> Hello:
>>
>> The document ATLAS-LVN-COM-2011-026 has just been submitted.
>>
>> It is available at the following URL:
>> <http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1399470>
>>
>> Title: Vidyo Documentation & Registration Procedure
>> Author(s): Steven Goldfarb
>> Content: New documentation for the Vidyo video conferencing system can
>> be found at <a href="http://cern.ch/vidyo">http://cern.ch/vidyo</a>.
>> All ATLAS collaboration members are asked to please sign up for
>> licenses (if not already done) and to register H.323 devices at their
>> home institutions, according to directions. Help and feedback: <a
>> href="mailto:vidyo-support at cern.ch">vidyo-support at cern.ch</a>.
>>
>>
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