[Videoconferencing] Re: [Fwd: Re: H323 MCU]

[Isabel Trigger]

Hi Dugan,

Thanks for forwarding this. It would be very good if we could  
participate in some of the tests, ideally both with the fancy HD  
equipment to see how it looks, and also if they want some "poor  
relations" to join in and test the up/down conversion...

Cheers
Isabel

Isabel Trigger
TRIUMF

On 15-Dec-08, at 22:51, Dugan ONeil <doneil at sfu.ca> wrote:

> Hi,
> Sorry for being so slow to get back to this video conferencing stuff.
>
> Attached is a draft MCU proposal for WestGrid. It includes some  
> general technology description and some preliminary quotes.
>
> Current status from Brian Corrie:
> "We are currently testing a Radvision/Lifesize MCU, on loan to  
> Dalhousie University. We should have a Codian/Cisco MCU on loan to  
> us at SFU later this month for further testing. Based on that  
> process we should have a good feel for the technology, capability,  
> and usability side of things. We then just need to figure out the  
> nuts and bolts of what we want and who is going to pay what. We  
> could have this done by the first quarter of next year (or not)..."
>
> So, I guess we can find out from them how things have gone with the  
> test units....and maybe even participate in a test conference??
>
> Cheers,
> Dugan.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: H323 MCU
> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:18:14 -0800
> From: Brian Corrie <bcorrie at sfu.ca>
> To: Dugan ONeil <doneil at sfu.ca>
> References: <490068AC.4070109 at sfu.ca> <4900A118.4080805 at sfu.ca> <49039836.9080900 at sfu.ca 
> > <490640EB.9040504 at sfu.ca> <49079E14.2070706 at sfu.ca>
>
> Hi Dugan,
>
> Here is the proposal... Pricing for the different options are near  
> the end.
>
> Brian
>
>
> Dugan ONeil wrote:
>> Thanks Brian. Yes, I would like to see the 4-page proposal.
>> Cheers,
>> Dugan.
>> Brian Corrie wrote:
>>> Hi Dugan,
>>>
>>> We are looking at three options:
>>>
>>> Lifesize/Radvision: $85K
>>> Codian/Tandberg: $155K
>>> Codian/Tandberg (extensible): $231K
>>>
>>> I think we can probably find the money for the first two options  
>>> without Atlas/TRIUMF money. The expensive one is the problematic  
>>> one. I am not sure what we would be looking for in terms of cost,  
>>> but $25K wouldn't be unreasonable. Do you want me to send you more  
>>> details? Todd has put together a four page draft proposal as to  
>>> some of the issues and what this is trying to accomplish...
>>>
>>> Personally I am leaning towards the expensive option if we can  
>>> find the money.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>>
>>> Dugan ONeil wrote:
>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>> Thanks for the update. What is the rough scale of the cost of the  
>>>> more expensive system? Any idea of an ATLAS fraction? I need a  
>>>> sense of scale...
>>>>
>>>> We can certainly help test a demo system.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dugan.
>>>>
>>>> Brian Corrie wrote:
>>>>> Hi Dugan,
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like there is enough interest, we are trying to figure  
>>>>> out needs vs dollars vs extensibility at the moment. I think we  
>>>>> will be getting something, just not quite clear when and how  
>>>>> much it will cost. I am personally leaning towards the more  
>>>>> expensive but much more flexible system. If we go that route we  
>>>>> might need to tap into some Atlas money. If not we can probably  
>>>>> do it without Atlas money (although Atlas can certainly be a  
>>>>> user).
>>>>>
>>>>> I will keep you in the loop. We are hoping to get a demo system  
>>>>> or two in the next month or two. If we do I will let you know  
>>>>> and you can experiment from an Atlas perspective (perhaps we can  
>>>>> do a test meeting with the Atlas Canada sites?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dugan ONeil wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>> How did the MCU discussion go? I have now confirmed that TRIUMF  
>>>>>> does not intend to buy their own MCU. So, there is a potential  
>>>>>> need in ATLAS for a service that could be provided through  
>>>>>> BCNET/Cybera/WestGrid/GroupX. I am still checking about  
>>>>>> potential financial support from ATLAS or from TRIUMF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Dugan.
>>>>
>
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